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Unfortunately, although some companies offer legal internship opportunities, information about them can be scarce. If you have a company in mind for which you would like to intern, visit its website to determine if it offers a legal internship opportunity. If you do not see information about a formal internship program at that company, consider reaching out to inquire whether the company might be interested in having you join it for the summer.
This can be an excellent way to gain some in-house experience over part of a law school summer. When considering a post-graduate transition to an in-house role, the best thing to do is start with research. You should also not underestimate the power of networking. Making connections through existing clients, trade organizations, bar associations, and other relevant professional relationships can be extremely helpful and informative to attorneys as they explore a pivot to in-house lawyering.
Ask the in-house attorneys with whom you speak what they like about working in-house, how they spend their days, those things they miss about their former practice, and what advice they might have for you both about where you might best fit within a corporate environment and how you might best go about pursuing an in-house position. Another major next step in transitioning into in-house employment is deciding the type of organizations that most interest you. It will be important for you to be excited enough about the industry that you will want to learn about how the company for which you are hoping to work conducts business, and how it stays competitive.
Some questions you may wish to consider:. You will also wish to gain an understanding of what in-house positions are open. Networking can be quite helpful in this regard. In addition, it is always a good idea to check the employer-specific career opportunities webpages for larger employers for which you are interested in working as an in-house attorney. Two additional good resources by which to identify open in-house positions are the Association of Corporate Counsel and the Minority Corporate Counsel Association.
Individuals conducting in-house job searches have also sometimes found the LinkedIn jobs search function to be quite helpful. Is the industry growing or on shaky ground? If the company is small or a start-up venture, ask to speak with an outside accountant or investor and, if possible, to see the internal financial statements and projections.
For a public company, review its SEC filings, which will show its present financial picture as well address those litigations in which the company is currently engaged. Do they make sound business decisions? Have they had previous successful business ventures?
How do the business-side people treat the in-house lawyers? Learn as much as you can about the corporate culture. For example, how does the company handle customer complaints? Gain an understanding of what your role in the company will be. To whom will you report? Will you be responsible for a particular area of law or a variety of legal issues? Are they seen as partners or as police, to be avoided and kept in the dark? When accepting an in-house position, negotiate up front for the best deal you can obtain.
Changes in title, salary, and equity often come slower in-house and are usually derived from your starting point. The in-house counsel for a small company thus serves as a jack-of-all-trades and should be prepared to handle everything from first-year associate-like matters to problems that senior law firm partners would typically handle.
To grow, a company needs capital. A company can take many avenues for obtaining that capital: it can seek to go public by listing its stock on an accredited exchange for purchase and trading by the general public; it can sell shares in a private placement; or it can exchange equity for capital from venture capitalists. To go public and for most private placements, a company must comply with the requirements of the Securities and Exchange Commission SEC.
That means the company needs lawyers. As a company prepares to sell part of its equity to raise capital, the role of the in-house lawyer is enhanced. In taking the company public, the general counsel will work with outside counsel to coordinate preparation of all filings with the SEC, comply with state blue sky laws, as well as work with investment bankers and underwriters as applicable.
Additionally, the company may be ready to expand its legal department as its day-to-day legal requirements increase and become more varied. A lawyer with only a few years of experience may be well-suited to one of the secondary roles in a growing company typically known as an assistant or deputy general counsel.
In addition to the benefits noted above, a lawyer joining a company at this stage will have the experience of working and networking with the legal and investment communities in a concerted effort to take the business to a new level. Large companies, such as Fortune companies, will have many in-house lawyers. Headed by a chief legal officer or a general counsel, the legal department in a large company may have numerous associates or attorneys holding the rank of assistant general counsel, and perhaps or more staff attorneys working to service the needs of the company.
The department may be centralized, with attorneys working in groups supervised by an assistant general counsel and ultimately the general counsel. In this structure, each group is typically given responsibility for certain discrete areas, such as litigation, corporate governance, tax, contracts, regulatory affairs, or employment.
In the other model, the attorneys are decentralized and each division or business unit of the company may have lawyers who handle a wide range of general issues involving just that particular division, with the division legal head reporting dually to the division business head and the corporate legal head. As a result, it is critical that an in-house attorney has excellent communication skills, interpersonal skills, and business savvy. Management consultants are hired as advisors to corporations and other entities to address business problems in a whole host of areas including mergers and acquisitions, product development, marketing and sales, and organizational design.
The largest consulting firms provide advice about strategic and core operational issues. Smaller, boutique consulting firms are often focused on a particular area of consulting, such as financial services or market research. For many years now, certain consulting firms have sought out talented students beyond those in MBA programs, including at law schools. For law students with a keen interest in business, excellent problem-solving ability, and a willingness to travel, a career with a management consulting firm could be the right path.
These firms typically though not always provide strategic or operational advice to top executive officers in Fortune companies. Consultants in these firms tend to start as generalists, working on a variety of projects and industries, and may or may not specialize after a few years. Another type of consulting firm is the boutique strategy firm. As the name indicates, these firms provide consulting advice to a specific industry, process, or type of client.
Law graduates, like candidates with other graduate degrees, typically start out at the same level as other professional-degree hires, including MBA graduates, at major consulting firms. Typical responsibilities of a consultant include leading client working sessions and managing client relationships; designing, conducting, and presenting research and analysis to clients often using Excel and PowerPoint ; and developing new hypotheses that inform the direction of projects.
Consulting firms typically provide several weeks of training to incoming associates and periodic ongoing training during the year to help develop these skills. The large consulting firms often have robust alumni networks and outplacement services, and even provide fully paid job search time for consultants who decide to leave.
After another years, an equity partner will become a director or senior partner, with an increased equity stake—the rough equivalent of academic tenure. The popular wisdom is that the best times to exit consulting firms are either a few years after having joined the firms as an undergraduate or, in the case of those who join after law school, as either a manager or partner but not director.
The work of a consultant changes dramatically as one progresses throughout the ranks of a consulting firm. A consultant will own a discrete piece of work as part of a larger project. A manager is responsible for overseeing a team of consultants and the daily execution of a project or of a workstream in a larger project, such as a complex implementation or transformation.
Partners are usually responsible for the ultimate delivery of any work product to the client. The above progression is the traditional path for generalist consultants who develop commercial responsibility. Even if they specialize in a particular function or industry as they become more senior, they remain generalists at heart.
The reasoning is that this will allow consultants to develop into holistic advisers and ultimately own client relationships as partners and directors, as a single client may engage a consulting firm across functions and even industries. Consultants who do not want commercial responsibility can become experts, developing deep functional expertise in a subject like marketing and sales. Oftentimes, experts can become partners but not directors.
The path to partner for an expert is typically longer, as more time is needed to develop deep functional expertise. An individual consulting assignment, called a case, study, project, or engagement, can last for many months, and sometimes years. On average, a typical assignment lasts months. Due diligences will run shorter, and implementations and transformations will run longer. As a result, consulting work can involve a tremendous amount of time away from home.
However, offices and industries will vary substantially in the amount of travel required. For example, a financial institutions consultant based in New York may travel very little, while an oil and gas consultant in that same office might be taking a flight to Texas, Louisiana, or the Midwest almost every week. In contrast to legal practice, which can involve a more solitary working style, consulting is generally collaborative by nature.
They will also collaborate directly with clients. Moreover, they will frequently brainstorm hypotheses with their engagement team, partners, and the client. As with law firm attorneys, there is no standard schedule for consultants—if a big presentation or deadline is looming, consultants are expected to put in the overtime to get the work done. The conventional wisdom is that consultants generally tend to work a similar amount of hours to large law firm associates, but with more travel.
However, many people will also note that many of these hours spent working by management consultants come in a more predictable schedule frequently involving a far higher percentage of protected weekends and evenings than for their large law firm associate counterparts. Moreover, consultants typically bill by the week, rather than by the hour, effectively meaning that they are incentivized to work as quickly and as efficiently as possible, and that working extra-long hours goes, from this perspective, unrewarded.
With this hard work also comes a high salary. Entry-level associates at a major consulting firm can expect to earn salaries similar to their colleagues at the larger law firms, with the expectation that their compensation will grow at a faster rate. For example, a new associate hired to an elite consulting firm may start with a base salary of, e. Unlike most law firms with lock-step salary structures, compensation for consultants is largely performance-based. Salary increases and bonuses for consultants can vary widely by their third or fourth years with the organization, though this also varies by firm.
Most consulting firms do not hire 1Ls for summer internships, and those that do generally only do so in a very limited fashion. While you can of course apply to consulting firms that accept 1L applications during your 1L year, consider using your first law-school summer to pursue employment that will help you to develop useful skills in preparation for interviewing with consulting firms in the first part of your 2L year. More specifically, and if possible, try to pursue experiences that bolster your analytical ability, particular quantitative skills, and ability to work in collaborative teams.
Working for a corporate law firm or as an intern for a legal or non-legal department of a corporation are two good choices. In addition, take some time during your 1L year and summer to reach out to alumni who are in the consulting field through some of the resources mentioned above.
If you do not already possess strong analytical and quantitative skills, consider taking a few courses at the Yale School of Management SOM , including strategy courses, corporate finance, and economics. Consulting firms tend to recruit law students for summer and permanent positions in a window that spans summer through early winter usually between July and December.
Be sure to check the websites and career-related portals of all consulting firms in which you are interested over the spring and early summer prior to your application window in order to familiarize yourself with their application deadlines and procedures.
CDO will also circulate information about some of the recruiting timelines and application deadlines for those consulting firms that regularly recruit YLS students. In some cases, offer acceptance deadlines from legal employers may fall prior to when you have even been able to apply to consulting firms in which you are interested.
Another option for those looking for summer employment is to consider is accepting a law firm offer for half the summer and then continuing to seek consulting opportunities for the other half. Should you have questions about the application of these Recruiting Policies to your own particular circumstances, please speak with a CDO counselor. Consulting firms seek candidates with strong analytical and quantitative skills, teamwork capability, leadership, interpersonal skills, presentation skills, energy, flexibility, maturity, and creativity.
During that process, you will often be asked to, e. Even if the consulting firm wishes to receive your application online, it is still extremely important that you first work your network. It is always preferable to get a foot in the door by reaching out to alumni, students, or others who have a relationship with the employer. Use bullet points for your descriptions, rather than paragraph form. Keep the bullet points short and start each bullet with an action verb.
More so than with law firms, you need to use this section to focus on your accomplishments. Whenever possible, quantify the results of your work—demonstrate the direct impact of your contribution. You may also wish to include a list of courses you have taken at the YLS or at SOM that demonstrate your quantitative skills, if they are not already transparent. There are typically two rounds of interviews for consulting firms, consisting of behavioral and case interviews in each round.
In the first round, there are typically two interviews with senior consultants or managers, each consisting of behavioral and case portions. In the final round, there are typically two or three interviews with partners, each also consisting of behavioral and case portions.
Each interview can last anywhere between 30 minutes and an hour, with final-round interviews typically running a bit longer. Be prepared to answer questions related to your interest in consulting, especially as it relates to your decision to attend law school. Take the opportunity to highlight experiences that demonstrate your leadership ability, as well as your communication and teamwork skills.
Consulting firms are most interested in your ability to manage conflict, persuade, and lead teams that deliver real results. Next, the interviewer will present you with a business case and ask for your opinion.
The case interview is not about coming up with the correct answer, but instead about how you think on your feet, analyze the problem, and articulate a solution. The case interview is also meant to test your analytical, verbal, and presentation skills.
Case interview questions will often be constructed from real engagements, and are designed to be as reflective of the actual work of consulting as possible. It is critical that you prepare and practice for these interviews. In addition to books like the widely recommended Case in Point and Case Interview Secrets , which prepare students for case interviews, many of the large management consulting firms including McKinsey, BCG, and Bain have practice cases available on their websites.
In addition, you may wish to consider connecting with the Yale Graduate Consulting Club or with the Yale SOM Consulting Club , both of which provide student candidates with case interview practice and other preparation geared toward the unique management consulting-style interviews.
Some consulting firms will, in addition to the behavioral and case interviews, incorporate a problem-solving assessment as part of the interview process. Alumni Networks. Working for an investment bank has, for many years, been a sought-after job choice among MBA students, as well as among certain law students.
These types of positions are known for their competitiveness, excitement levels, work pressure, prestige, and huge salaries. These bulge bracket banks tend to operate in multiple geographic regions, and provide a wide array of services to clients. Many investment bankers and most YLS students interested in investment banking are involved in corporate finance.
Underwriting involves overseeing the process of raising capital for a company, typically by selling stocks or bonds. Bankers involved in selling do just that—they sell stocks to either individual investors or institutional investors or both. In simple terms, traders facilitate the buying and selling of stocks. Some research analysts focus on a discreet industry. Bankers in corporate finance and sales rely heavily on the advice and recommendations from research analysts before communicating with their clients.
Associates typically prepare pitchbooks; attend client presentations; conduct valuation analyses on companies; assist in the execution of transactions by preparing engagement letters and internal committee memos; conduct due diligence; and assist in the negotiation of business and legal issues with companies, other bankers, and lawyers.
On average, associates are promoted to vice president in three to five years, although this is no guarantee. In fact, one of the hallmarks of the industry is that promotions are based solely on merit. At the vice president level, there is more direct engagement with clients, which typically involves significantly more travel.
After that, exceptional performers are promoted to the director or managing director levels. The role of the director is to cultivate client relationships to generate business for the bank. At this level, bankers typically focus on clients in a particular industry. This category of investment bank includes employers such as, for example, Evercore, Moelis, Lazard, and Perella Weinberg Partners.
They tend to advise on deals that are as large — i. The responsibilities of investment banking associates are similar to those of a corporate law firm associate in the sense that bankers negotiate on behalf of their clients, draft documents, and conduct due diligence. They differ in a number of ways as well. Bankers pitch new ideas for transactions to companies and therefore get involved in transactions at an earlier stage e. Most investment banks provide some type of training for new hires.
In some banks, the training resembles a mini-business-school experience, with case studies and the like. At other banks, the training is more of the on-the-job nature. The basic Series 7 General Securities license is required for most people involved in selling securities, including corporate finance and research professionals as well as salespeople and traders.
Investment banking is a notoriously tough industry. There is a strong emphasis on hard work, ambition, and a willingness to do whatever it takes to get the job done. It is also an industry that revolves around money. While not everyone is comfortable with that type of environment, for some people it can provide an excellent fit.
Not unlike a corporate law firm associate, the life of an investment banker revolves around the deal and is thus quite unpredictable. When the deal heats up, everyone on the team will be working at full throttle. When the market is soft, the work schedule can be a tad more reasonable.
Although there can be some travel especially as associates take on more responsibility with client meetings and road shows it is not the same type of travel-intensive job of a management consultant. It is sometimes said that investment banking associates work longer hours than law firm associates and management consultants investment banking associates on average work hours per week , and at a more hectic pace. In exchange for all this hard work, however, come hefty salaries.
With end-of-year bonuses, associates can often double their base salary after their first full year at the banks, although those end-of-year bonuses are discretionary. Commence your investment banking job search by learning everything you can about the investment banking industry and particular employers. If you have not before, start focusing on current financial news and industry information by reading the Wall Street Journal and New York Times business sections, watching CNN, and the like.
Once you have some knowledge of the industry, start networking with YLS alumni who work in investment banking. It will also be helpful to identify those investment banks where YLS students have recently worked for summers or immediately after graduation; Career Management System CMS contains resources including YLS student summer employment lists and a list of recent business employers of YLS students. Because investment banks typically do not hire first-year law students for summer jobs, you should use your first summer to gain some general finance experience.
Another is to consider working for a public interest employer or governmental office or agency that works in a subject area related to that of investment banking. In the fall of your second year, and in the fall and spring of your first year, attend employer events at the Law School and those open to YLS students at other Yale schools. Also be sure to participate in recruiting-related events that are convened by the investment banks that interest you.
Feel free to discuss this possibility with a CDO counselor. While some investment banks have been known to modify their recruiting schedules for law students, investment banks have typically expected summer intern applications from current 2Ls in the fall, conducted interviews in the winter, and made final hiring decisions shortly thereafter.
In the past, this has resulted in some students interested in pursuing both this route as well as law firm opportunities for their 2L summers having to make some challenging decisions about how to conduct their 2L summer job search, as the recruiting timelines of the employers with which they were recruiting did not always align well. Another option for a student interested in experiencing both types of employers in the 2L summer to consider is accepting a law firm offer for half of the summer and continuing to seek investment banking positions for the other half.
Students can also contact investment banks early in the fall, and inquire whether they might engage in early application processes that match a typical 2L summer law firm hiring cycle reaching out to alumni may be effective in this regard. Please feel free to speak with a CDO counselor about which option s make the most sense for you. If you do not have luck securing an investment banking position as a student, consider working for a few years in a corporate group at a law firm and then transitioning into investment banking practice thereafter.
If this is important to you, inquire during your interview about how the organization approaches the issue, or consider splitting your summer between a law firm and an investment bank, if that is a feasible option given the employers from which you hold summer offers, in order to obtain a bit more security in terms of post-graduate employment options.
Feel free, as well, to discuss these matters with a CDO counselor. Many investment banks have online application forms or portals. In filling out these initial application materials, you will likely be asked to provide information about your academic background, results of standardized tests, language skills, and your preferences for practice areas. It is important to note that even if the investment bank wishes to receive your application online, it is still extremely important that you first work your network.
It is always preferable to get a foot in the door with an investment bank by reaching out to alumni, students, or others who have a relationship with the employer. Be sure to include any test results and grades that showcase your intellectual and quant-related abilities.
Include relevant courses taken at YLS, as well as, e. Use the bullets to provide information on results you achieved in the position and be sure to keep them short. Start each bullet point with an action verb. Make sure to highlight any leadership positions you have held, and, wherever possible, to quantify aspects of your prior experiences e.
There are certain finance topics that are likely to come up in your banking interviews. These include valuing a company; discounted cash flow; market multiples; financial ratios; financing strategies for companies; general accounting information; and stock analysis.
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A good way for those interested in the field to gain experience and make professional contacts before landing a job is to complete an internship. Investment banks regularly take on undergraduate and graduate interns and provide them with training and mentorship. Interns typically perform the same kinds of duties that analysts and associates perform, including gathering data, working with financial models, and interacting with clients.
Master of Business Administration degrees MBAs are most common among investment bankers, but other graduate degrees, like law degrees, can be useful as well. CFA candidates must pass an examination at the end of each of the three levels of the program. The CFA program takes two to five years to complete. The Bureau of Labor Statistics projects that employment of securities, commodities, and financial services sales agents, including investment bankers, will grow 11 percent between and , which matches the average growth for all occupations over that time.
The BLS expects that, while there will be additional jobs, competition for positions will be strong, and that candidates with graduate degrees and voluntary certifications like the Chartered Financial Analyst certification offered by the CFA Institute will have the best prospects. Investment bankers often start their careers at the analyst level and, with experience and additional education, advance into associate positions. Others enter the field as associates after working in another industry and earning a graduate degree such as an MBA.
With experience, associates can become vice presidents at their banks, supervising analysts and associates and interacting more directly with clients. After some time as a vice president, investment bankers may then become directors or principals at their bank and further focus on building relationships with new and existing clients.
One of the highest positions an investment banker can reach is managing director, and at this level they work almost exclusively on bringing in new business. As investment bankers move up the hierarchy of their bank, their base salary increases, but their potential for bonus earnings increases much more.
To land a job as an investment banker, you must concentrate heavily on networking while still in school. Large investment banks recruit prospective analysts and associates from top business schools, and often fill these positions with interns who have worked with them as summer analysts or associates.
As your network grows, you will increase your chances of meeting someone who can offer you an opportunity to interview for a position. You can learn more about the requirements and training process to become an investment banker by visiting the websites of large investment banks like Goldman-Sachs and J. These companies detail the various programs they offer for undergraduate students, graduate students, recent graduates, and experienced professionals.
Learning more through this process can also be a good way to build your professional network. How to Become. Look at the stickied thread "Regional Boutiques" at the top of this forum to get some names of small banks in various cities.
Think about it this way. What do you bring to the table that a 22 year old who majored in accounting or finance, or went to an ivy league school can't? You do know you can work up to hours a week in NYC. If i'm a recruiter I've gotta think thats a lot for a 27 year old. Could you even handle it given that you have a girlfriend who you'll never see?
Is she going to like that lifestyle? I understand your situation but I think your making a huge mistake. Your in debt which blows, but you have to remember 1st year salary doesnt mean shit compared to your salary in 10 or 15 years. It just baffles me someone could waste the past 3 years of their life like you and just go straight IB.
I do not know where everyone is coming up with their numbers, but first year salaries for good law firms is on par with first year i-banking salaries. And also remember don't be so sure your going to make k first year in i-banking as that is only if you get in the top bucket. My thoughts are you go where you are good at and the money will come, because going where the money is and not being good doesnt do you any good.
I appreciate your points, but it's sunk costs, really. I have to do what's best for my future today, without regard for what I've done before. The kinds of legal jobs I'm looking at start around k and involve only slightly better hours. In most other major markets like Chicago or LA, a first year will still bring in about k all in though there are some firms that match NYC numbers.
Coming out of law school, you are in an interesting predicament with respect to investment banks. You will probably find that they will be more reluctant to hire you as an analyst than as associate, though by no means does that mean an associate position will be easy to come by. I go to a top 5 law school, and even here, there are very very few people heading into investment banks though I couldn't say to what extent that is a function of self-selection - it is law school, after all without any sort of WE in finance.
While it is definitely an uphill battle, it is not an impossibility. The best advice i can give is for you to reach out to alumni who have graduated from your particular school and made in into an IB role. Best of luck! Thanks for the advice, IBanon.
Looks like another trip to the mostly useless Career Services Office is in order. I understand, of course, that a degree from a top-5 school may just sell itself. That will give you a better chance to break into finance at at a level above analyst beleive it when ppl here say it is hell as you will have solid expertise and experience in assesing the risks involved in that industry. The ability to evalaute, judge and take a solidly defensible call on industry, sector or type specific risk is a very valuable skill set good lawyers have.
It is transposable into an investment situation. There have been threads here where people have stated that v. I am not in finance, but i am trying to take the above path. What others commenting on this thread have said is true, dont run after the 'seemingly' fastest way to pay off your debt but rather look at what will optimise your chances of earnings that match your potential and ability over a lifetime.
To decide that you need to figure out what you want to do and what you feel, based on how well you know yourself, you'd excel at. I had to go back and get my MBA to get into banking. That's the only way that you're going to get credit enough to move directly to banking IF you don't have any finance background. You should practice for 3 years, go to a top MBA program and then get into banking.
People do it all the time. Fuck, this is why you DON'T go to law school. You'll be updating some noob's financial models on excel at 27 while 25 yr olds will be associates. Go be a lawyer, you should have sorted this shit out before you spent three years of your life mooting and wearing nancy robes and shit.
I think you are all way off base with your levels. This past year all but 4 of the vault evidently lawyers rank the prestige of their firms entirely with vault. Honestly, if you think your grades are not good enough to get a job in the top law firms, then how can you expect them to get you a banking job? There are far more law firms than there are top banks. It is possible to go from law school to banking, but you've gotta have the grades for it, just like you do if you came out of an MBA or undergrad.
The banks might be willing to hire someone who has their pick of the top firms, but still chooses banking. If you're still dead set on getting into finance even though there is a very good chance it pays less than law , your best bet is a smaller boutique or MM bank somewhere outside of NY. The pay will be less making law more attractive , but at least you may get a look from them. Personally, I think you should just get the best legal job you can in practice that supports transactions.
Then, try to make contacts with the people you work on deals with. Once you gain experience, you might be able to switch. However, your ability to switch is directly related to the prestige of the firm you work for and the quality of experience you gain. Since then, almost every other firm followed. It is extremely competitive, so when one firm raises pay, the rest follow almost immediatly. Also, when they raise the pay scale at the low end, everyone above the low end gets a raise onto the new pay scale too.
This level of pay is actually pretty attractive compared to analysts and associates especially when lifestyle is factored in. However, as people have noted, you have to go to law school for 3 years. Also, the long-term comp. I am a 3rd year Law student also and I will be starting with a BB i-bank this summer as a 3rd year analyst. Being a lawyer sucks corporate law anyway. All of this helps very little for the modeling that I will be doing my first couple of years but it will be a huge asset when it comes VP time I can structure the shit out of a deal.
I doubt many associates know how to structure acquisitions and restructurings to yield a dozen different tax consequences. Or if a potential merge will be challenged by the DOJ, or of all of the takeover regulations and defenses that can be employed. Nonetheless, you HAVE to have more than a basic knowledge of finance.
I was an accounting undergrad. Therefore I know how to rip apart financial statements. Without this knowledge I doubt that you will get hired. I just interviewed with I-banks to expand my options. To answer your question and you're not going to like this I think you may have started too LATE to get into i-banking. You should have been taking all the right classes and studying on your own to become seasoned in finance.
Even analysts have been hired already for BB. If you have a really good contact then you can apply for next year I would suggest studying finance all summer if so. You usually get the Partner nod after years and you have a strictly negotiated salary Actually, the moral is that if you go to lawschool, you will be 10 times more knowledgeable than your peers and you can excel fast and be VERY good at structuring deals, highly respected etc BUT make sure that you plan well you have to plan well regardless of your path.
You CANT go to lawschool and a month before you are graduating decide you want to take a drastic career path. I did it in 3 by taking a ton of hours. I have never heard of some crazy shit like that. Did you go to private school in under grad AND law?
This is why most lawyers surveyed say they wouldnt have done law school if they had a chance to do it all again. I think that although your chances are slim, you should still apply to all the BB's. I mean between coming from law, the russian thing and such maybe you'll just seem different and at least get some interviews. Not to discount the opinions of the people on the board since i value them and they helped me but no one can tell what a recruiter is thinking on a certain day.
I mean roll the dice, worst case scenario you never hear anything back Your grades are to shitty to get into law, but you think they are good enough for banking. I got news pops, they rexruit from the same top schools, only they are looking for grades and experience. My Dad's firm pays their summer associates almost that much pro-rated, of course.
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